tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post2948977842381010862..comments2023-10-20T21:52:36.752+05:30Comments on Cross Connections: Not just patriotism of a kindFarzana Verseyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06891229615361937135noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-3650078750886402282010-11-25T19:12:06.234+05:302010-11-25T19:12:06.234+05:30Mahesh:
I think bracketing movements when discuss...Mahesh:<br /><br />I think bracketing movements when discussing specifics is THE problem. Roy does it and so do several others. If people like her or even some other 'vocal' ones articulate various political struggles, they ought to take into account the various thought processes within those struggles. They cannot be herded like cattle. (And I do not see how such people get legitimacy of saying what the separatists have maintained, and the lesser locals have lived through.)<br /><br />The term 'industry' can refer to any established group that refuses to accept that even dissent of one kind is not god. The feedback I get for raising some points regarding her positions reveals that this is an established mainstream idea that has taken root. It helps linear thinking, I guess. <br /><br />We have to disagree, I am afraid.<br /><br />- - -<br /><br />Al:<br /><br />Good to see you back, and better to discover that you have mischief to consider. This blog is a straitlaced place, as you well know :)<br /><br />Re. the Kashmir issue and India's interest, again I think we are obfuscating the main issue of the people's struggle as opposed to political interests. China, while an important consideration, has never been a moot point in this particular equation. It is too late for Kashmiris to fall on India's side and they are already victims of the power struggle between two nations.FVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-52848130995822522512010-11-25T03:30:47.651+05:302010-11-25T03:30:47.651+05:30Mahesh, Farzana, Sorry I have not watched this bl...Mahesh, Farzana, Sorry I have not watched this blog in a while -- too much other mischief to consider :-P<br /><br /><br />Kashmir is India's solution to controlling China's access to the Arabian Sea, and no matter what the Kashmiris think or feel, the Republic of India has an interest in having a lever to moderate China's behaviour. In the so-called "public interest", Kashmiris better fall on India's side or get chewed up by power politics.<br /><br />-AlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-17955586692377360252010-11-25T00:51:34.733+05:302010-11-25T00:51:34.733+05:30Farzana,
Here is the thing.
Mostly the theme at pl...Farzana,<br />Here is the thing.<br />Mostly the theme at play here is the social discourse on the political issues.<br />Let us consider Kashmir as example.<br />The social discourse we see about Kashmir has been oscillating between "Total Freedom Sentiment devoid of Practical implications" and "Total control bordering and transgressing the punishment for infidels - even including general kashmiri population". Between these oscillations we sometimes see a refreshing outlook articulated by persons such Samar Halarnkar expressing his co-worker's sentiments behind stone pelting. A larger problem with the discourse is its fallback on the political idioms / patterns resorting to both pro and anti state positions. Further still, lack of proper credible political movement only re-inforces the stereotypical positions. Ms. Roy's positions need to be seen in this perspective. Her problem is banking on the discourse - and just the discourse. Medha Patkar would use the discourse as a political weapon combining it with her activism. Noam Chomsky would dissect it making more pragmatic demands on the state. Ms. Roy is trapped in the discourse. "Literally". <br />Having said all of the above - however - I still don't see Ms. Roy catering to any "industry". Not even by a long shot - to be precise. Another thing about vocal persons like Ms. Roy has been they have - albeit unknowingly - helped articulating various political struggles.<br />Cheers,<br />Mahesh.Maheshnoreply@blogger.com