tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post4806982724277214104..comments2023-10-20T21:52:36.752+05:30Comments on Cross Connections: Jamaatis vs. Peroxide BlondesFarzana Verseyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06891229615361937135noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-24968761316652534602010-10-05T09:29:03.940+05:302010-10-05T09:29:03.940+05:30Sure, closing in works, as well.
Here's a pas...Sure, closing in works, as well.<br /><br />Here's a passage from Melville's <i>Moby-Dick,</i> chapter entitled "The Pulpit." Father Mapple is a preacher reknowned among seamen. Ishmael has just watched him ascend into his steeply elevated pulpit using a ship's side ladder rather than stairs -- a ladder he pulls up after him once aboard(!):<br /><br /><i>. . . I pondered some time without fully comprehending the reason for this. Father Mapple enjoyed such a wide reputation for sincerity and sanctity, that I could not suspect him of courting notoriety by any mere tricks of the stage. No, thought I, there must be some sober reason for this thing; futhermore, it must symbolize something unseen. Can it be, then, that by that act of physical isolation, he signifies his spiritual withdrawal for the time, from all outward worldly ties and connexions? Yes, for replenished with the meat and wine of the word, to the faithful man of God, this pulpit, I see, is a self-contained stronghold--a lofty Ehrenbreitstein, with a perennial well of water within the walls.</i><br /><br />Yet another way to see it. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-34720112206299807922010-10-04T21:25:43.405+05:302010-10-04T21:25:43.405+05:30Mstaab:
Hi Mark...
Perhaps your thoughts on the ...Mstaab:<br /><br />Hi Mark...<br /><br /><i>Perhaps your thoughts on the "solomonic" Ayodha judgement are already ascertainable in the above? Just a thought. :)</i><br /><br />Let us just say they are both not mutually-exclusive.<br /><br /><br /><i>Well, yes, the expression "rock and a hard place" does come to mind when considering the sampling of both public and private feedback you've gotten on "Untouchable Aafia."</i><br /><br />A rock can be an anchor, so I'd go with pebbles and sand.<br /><br /><i>With "Jamaatis vs. Peroxide Blondes" it becomes clearer that there's more than one way to interpret "untouchable" -- untouchable either in the sense of something by which one can become defiled or in the sense of something pure, but which can itself be defiled (save by sanctified hands).</i><br /><br />Becoming defiled does allude to one's perception to one's own purity, real or imagined. The 'active' untouchable could again mean being too pure to be defiled. Of course, these are just other ways of seeing.<br /><br /><br /><i>>>I don’t see it this way. There are areas that need to be explored beyond what is available to us.<<<br /><br />What is, perhaps, not so clear (if, by "available," you mean "as presented by" these two apparent extremes) is how to get "beyond" them -- much less, if there is, as you say, that need. Might one also consider such pressures as are brought to bear by these two extremes as being deliberate -- a sort of squeezing . . . out?</i><br /><br />Again, available to us is the reality, the perception of it, the projection of it and the in-betweens. "As presented by" whom, would also be a moot point because the extremes work on the principle of isolation. That gives them a certain 'deliberation'. Squeezing out of closing in?FVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-19117742229398679152010-10-04T20:54:48.988+05:302010-10-04T20:54:48.988+05:30RBaruah:
I was quite taken aback by the verdict a...RBaruah:<br /><br />I was quite taken aback by the verdict and yet...<br /><br />Have posted something finally...would love to hear your views. And thank you or seeing this space as a place to share.FVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-91657662054993812072010-10-04T20:47:10.640+05:302010-10-04T20:47:10.640+05:30Circle:
People of religion have always influenced...Circle:<br /><br />People of religion have always influenced the public, and in every part of the world some sort of belief system does seep into the political arena. It affects society. I would be more worried if the jamaatis managed to 'convert' people to their way of thinking (assuming it is the worst) while trying to help. The same standards apply to any ideology. <br /><br />Anon:<br /><br />Is this an ode to 'circle' here? Or are you holding forth on circles of thought? If it is the latter, then let me assure you that if a circle is impregnable then squares and rectangles and triangles have sharp edges; it does not mean they step out of their angles.FVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-3668334437044463302010-10-04T03:57:07.848+05:302010-10-04T03:57:07.848+05:30Hi Farzana,
Perhaps your thoughts on the "so...Hi Farzana,<br /><br />Perhaps your thoughts on the "solomonic" Ayodha judgement are already ascertainable in the above? Just a thought. :)<br /><br />>>Not a huge fan of a ‘balanced picture’ nor of teetering on the side of achingly forced ‘logic’, quite by default I have ended up rubbing the jamaati proponents and the peroxide blonde supporters the wrong way. This would make me balanced.<<<br /><br />Well, yes, the expression "rock and a hard place" does come to mind when considering the sampling of both public and private feedback you've gotten on "Untouchable Aafia." With "Jamaatis vs. Peroxide Blondes" it becomes clearer that there's more than one way to interpret "untouchable" -- untouchable either in the sense of something by which one can become defiled or in the sense of something pure, but which can itself be defiled (save by sanctified hands). <br /><br />>>I don’t see it this way. There are areas that need to be explored beyond what is available to us.<<<br /><br />What is, perhaps, not so clear (if, by "available," you mean "as presented by" these two apparent extremes) is how to get "beyond" them -- much less, if there is, as you say, that need. Might one also consider such pressures as are brought to bear by these two extremes as being deliberate -- a sort of squeezing . . . out?<br /><br />MarkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-80070729341861043372010-10-01T20:15:24.125+05:302010-10-01T20:15:24.125+05:30when i look at circle, at first, i am enchanted by...when i look at circle, at first, i am enchanted by the symmetry, its well defined form allures me, it appears to be all encompassing. but the more i stare at it, i begin to notice the hollowness, whatever is in its inner sanctum, cannot come out - what lies outside can't enter it's impregnable circular perimeter. It is an isolating figure. The points that lie on it, go round and round beating on themselves, like the logic named after it ... circulus in probando ... a rephrased conclusion that appears to be different then the premise, but in fact is the same. And so it goes, round and round like the rodent on the Ferris wheel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-53815732003916329152010-10-01T13:26:24.423+05:302010-10-01T13:26:24.423+05:30Hi Farzana
Sorry for posting a comment which is no...Hi Farzana<br />Sorry for posting a comment which is not related to this post.<br />I have been visiting your blog quite a few times today to see if you have posted anything <br />on the Ayodhya verdict. Don't know if you are thinking of ignoring it altogether (given the absurd nature of it),<br />but still I would like to request you to write on it, as it gives us an opportunity to express our views also, which we don't want to get drowned in the comment space of TOI.<br /><br />RBaruahRBaruahnoreply@blogger.com