tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post6832214120831243280..comments2023-10-20T21:52:36.752+05:30Comments on Cross Connections: Leave Indian Muslims out of thisFarzana Verseyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06891229615361937135noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-73571999906411660632011-05-29T10:54:36.940+05:302011-05-29T10:54:36.940+05:30FV,
If Saudi Arabian women start strutting around...FV,<br /><br />If Saudi Arabian women start strutting around in bikinis, I can not but throw off my "blinkers" and get a better view! Until then, let them know that my blinkers serve them the same way as do their veils. And without suffocating them!Free and Footloosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911514463551198170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-39603917141203459742011-05-28T23:19:10.166+05:302011-05-28T23:19:10.166+05:30F&F:
What is new-found about the demarcation ...F&F:<br /><br />What is new-found about the demarcation I make between IMs and others? Honestly, if you do not know don't just jump to conclusions with inadequate information. <br /><br />I am glad you have been touched, but the logic is still quite dheela. Will you stop worrying about whether women can wear bikinis in Saudi Arabia since Goa etc are there for WE INDIANS? <br /><br />To answer you more directly, no, I will not stop discussing the "War on terror" (do they say Islam?) because I don't wear blinkers. It's like saying why bother about global warming as long as your aircon is cool and these days even swings as you move. <br /><br />PS: I notice the smiley has replaced 'language'. Good. <br /><br />Anon:<br /><br />I believe walls have sharper ears than flies.FVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-89233322747790353392011-05-28T22:59:32.431+05:302011-05-28T22:59:32.431+05:30Mahesh:
No worries about anyone thinking about yo...Mahesh:<br /><br />No worries about anyone thinking about you being a "cohort" given the number of disagreements we've had. And I think it's time for me to get some comrade-type support too (ifyoukbowwhatimean)!<br /><br />Re. Osama, let us not forget that there were other extremist movements before him. I guess if Indians were to follow his brand, then Ayurveda would be even more popular.<br /><br />PS: Hope you had a good Jumma to prepare you for a great weekend :)FVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-41407271057704163892011-05-28T11:19:01.347+05:302011-05-28T11:19:01.347+05:30FV,
I am touched to see your new-found faith in t...FV,<br /><br />I am touched to see your new-found faith in the teritorial boundaries of (Indian!) Islam. I hope hereafter you will be neutral about the so called "War on Islam" by the west since most of it is being fought outside India! These issues just don't matter to WE INDIANS after all (Smiley)!!Free and Footloosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911514463551198170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-5523393971342044562011-05-28T11:15:05.597+05:302011-05-28T11:15:05.597+05:30Mahesh,
Thanks for the reply. I have neither defe...Mahesh,<br /><br />Thanks for the reply. I have neither defended nor propogated Modi's "brand" of Hinduism. I have my own and I am quite happy with it. It is some others who are trying to make Modi into some kind of a "branded" monster with fangs! Hope you have some advice for them too!Free and Footloosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911514463551198170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-27829302970581729702011-05-28T01:06:15.189+05:302011-05-28T01:06:15.189+05:30Farzana,
Am jumping in this "debate" for...Farzana,<br />Am jumping in this "debate" for certain responses that I find myself strongly dis-agreeing with and just plain revulsing . This *is not* I repeat *is not* (double emphasis added for your blog visitors who might mistake me to be your "cohort") in your defence. You are too strong for it. <br />Moving on to the response.....<br />F & F said ....<br />"But (I am convinced) that the Indian Muslims do not disagree too much with Osama's Islamic vision of the world. It is only when they feel they will be paying a personal price for it that they get together at Azad Maidan with 'secular' banners."<br />Wonderful. A little curious - do we understand at all that Osama's brand of "Islamic Vision" does expect a very very hefty personal price by followers - his infatuation with "Herbal Viagra" notwithstanding . Do we even realise the kind of situation India will be in if it's largest minority were to follow his brand of Islam ? <br />BTW, since you mentioned Modi somewhere - let us you try building and selling Modi's brand of Hinduism. Get back to me if you ever succeed. <br />- Mahesh.Maheshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-50949314612305038702011-05-28T00:27:16.130+05:302011-05-28T00:27:16.130+05:30Fight against your own arguments. I wish, I could...Fight against your own arguments. I wish, I could be that fly on the wall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-47458402424081801212011-05-27T23:44:33.618+05:302011-05-27T23:44:33.618+05:30F&F:
This is hardly a rebuttal.
Headley wa...F&F:<br /><br />This is hardly a rebuttal. <br /><br />Headley was a novice not an expert to be given such power by a terrorist organisation. It has nothing to do with mullahs and although I don't think they need to be consulted, for whatever it is worth they have some knowledge. <br /><br />It is a pity you cannot ask them questions but am sure Swami Ramdev can help.<br /><br />Re. Modi, Headley mentioned Gujarat, not Timbuktoo, so check your own biases before pointing fingers. <br /><br />And yes when someone is killed for converting out of Islam in India, do talk about it. Until then why don't you find out how Rizwan was killed for marrying a Hindu girl and her father got away without being made answerable?FVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-34148670791866633622011-05-27T23:23:49.253+05:302011-05-27T23:23:49.253+05:30Anon:
No, not really, because I'd have fought...Anon:<br /><br />No, not really, because I'd have fought against my own arguments!<br /><br />Thank you.FVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-39780491497802834542011-05-27T17:24:28.965+05:302011-05-27T17:24:28.965+05:30Point-to-point rebuttal (I love doing this!!):
&q...Point-to-point rebuttal (I love doing this!!):<br /><br />"How does Headley become an expert?"<br /><br />He is not, but so isn't a Mullah. Why do Muslims go to Mullahs for 'Islamic' opinions? Since Islam does not have a priest class, everyone should be free to make decisions for themselves. Isn't the concept of Fatwa itself unislamic? Who is educating the community about this?<br />----------<br />"Narendra Modi (is) boasting about how Muslims in his state are doing so well."<br /><br />Is he the only one? Everybody from Mulayam to Maya to Nitish to Sheila to YSR have put out ads with pictures of hizbi women to show how their govts care for Muslims! Why are you singling out Modi, if not as a mere reflex action born out of a virulent bias?<br />---------<br />"(Indian Muslims) go on a guilt trip each time some Islamist is behind attacks. I don’t find Hindus feeling guilty or taking out morchas because of Malegaon or Bhiwandi or Babri. And they absolutely do not have to."<br /><br />Who has asked Muslims to do this? I do not feel guilty about Sadhvi being arrested because I have never subscribed to her vision of Hinduism. But (I am convinced) that the Indian Muslims do not disagree too much with Osama's Islamic vision of the world. It is only when they feel they will be paying a personal price for it that they get together at Azad Maidan with 'secular' banners. I am still waiting for Bukhari or Deoband to issue a fatwa saying a convert out of Islam can not be killed. I am willing to put in a written question myself but they will not answer a non-Muslim! It is perhaps haram to answer leading questions by kafirs!Free and Footloosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911514463551198170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16761020.post-26374296512424935972011-05-27T07:13:41.529+05:302011-05-27T07:13:41.529+05:30Farzana:
Did you ever consider law as the profess...Farzana:<br /><br />Did you ever consider law as the profession?<br /><br />Your arguments are impressive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com